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The three members of Tarbaby – pianist & friend of the proGram, Orrin Evans, bassist Eric Revis, & drummer Nasheet Waits – share a long history together, dating back to well before the formation of the trio. They share core beliefs about acknowledging the over-arching tradition of the music while being true to one’s own story; they’re an ensemble of serious intentions and riotous humor, fervid spirit and fierce intellect, passion and purpose. All of that melds and collides in their provocative and risk-welcoming sound. The New York Times has hailed the trio as, “a strong postbop collective with plenty of moves at its command: advanced rhythmic calculus, sly harmonic implication, [and] cohesive elasticity.” Lucid Culture described Tarbaby as, “Intense, enigmatic, often very funny… Darkly melodic, fearlessly spontaneous and bristling with combustible energy.” 2024 saw a bold new release from the eclectic power trio. For the first time in a career marked by collaborations, You Think This Is America marks the first time that Tarbaby has recorded an entire album strictly in piano trio format. Recorded live at New York’s Hunter College for photographer/engineer Jimmy Katz’s Giant Step Arts imprint, the confrontational date mixes originals with wide-ranging covers by Ornette Coleman, David Murray, Andrew Hill, Sunny Murray, & The Stylistics. Tarbaby didn’t set out to become a band. It arose from a conversation, one that in many ways had been going on for decades and continues to this day. That dialogue centers on the respect, or lack thereof, with which “jazz” (in these discussions, that word is often voiced tenuously if at all) is regarded by those who claim to uphold its traditions. The music’s origins are a key factor, especially as they are so intimately tied to uncomfortable facts that many, even those who reap its benefits, would prefer to ignore.

I had a chance to catch up with legendary bassist, Eric Revis ahead of the September 10th TARBABY event at Arts + Literature Laboratory. Mr. Branford Marsalis states, “Eric’s sound is the sound of doom; big, thick, percussive.” Scores of musicians across various disciplines agree. Revis has performed and recorded with Betty Carter, Peter Brötzmann, Jeff “Tain” Watts, Jason Moran, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Steve Coleman, Ralph Peterson, Lionel Hampton, McCoy Tyner, Andrew Cyrille, & Tarbaby, the experimental trio he tri-leads with Orrin Evans & Nasheet Waits, as well as with Options, also with Waits, and the legendary Bennie Maupin. In addition to manning the bass chair in Branford Marsalis’ revered quartet since 1997 (scoring a Grammy in the process), Revis has also recorded eight brilliant and wildly diverse albums as a leader, teaming him with visionary artists like Jason Moran, Ken Vandermark, Kris Davis & Andrew Cyrille, and appeared on the soundtracks to the Netflix features Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom & Rustin. Mr. Revis and I talk about what one could likely plan for at a TARBABY live event, we dive deep into the name of the band and how the conversations around that sound in 2025 and we dissect some of the music on the latest record. We find out when the album featuring Ursula Rucker might be dropping and if in fact, Mr. Marsalis does noodle. This is a conversation about friends making music with a purpose of what has been missing, keying in on those feelings and continuing to write the history books with a new language based of the old ways. This is music that makes me stand taller and try harder and is sure to provide many expressions and how to find yourself best suited in the places you’re in.

Whenever Oliver Wood isn’t touring with The Wood Brothers, the Grammy-nominated roots trio that he co-founded in 2006, he typically begins his mornings the same way: in Nashville, at home, with a coffee cup in his hand and a notebook in his lap, sitting in a chair in front of the window. Many of the songs from his latest solo effort ‘Fat Cat Silhouette’ began taking shape in that chair. Produced by his Wood Brothers’ bandmate Jano Rix, it’s an album of unexpected twists & turns. Longtime fans will recognize the earnest, elastic voice that has always anchored the Wood Brothers’ mix of forward-looking folk and southern country-funk, but Fat Cat Silhouette doesn’t spend much time looking backward. Instead, it abandons convention, breaks a few rules, and positions Oliver Wood as a roots-music innovator who’s every bit as interested in the process as the product. Oliver wanted to step out of the norm on this one. On the album’s opener, “Light and Sweet,” he matches an imaginative storyline with a melody that leaps from ground level into the stratosphere. Eight songs later, he brings things to a close with “Fortune Drives the Bus,” which he recorded on an iPhone in his own backyard. While tracking the rest of the album to analog tape, Wood pushed himself to keep things weird. Wood’s years of experience have left him with a wide circle of collaborators, and ‘Fat Cat Silhouette’ features performances from guests like Los Lobos’ Steve Berlin (whose saxophone can be heard on the groove-heavy numbers “Whom I Adore” and “Yo I Surrender”), Ted Pecchio who handles bass duties throughout the collection and Marcus Henderson (who contributes flute & fife to “Whom I Adore”). Co-writers like Sean McConnell, Seth Walker, & Ric Robertson lend their help, too, while Katie Pruitt tackles a verse on the heartbroken soul ballad “Have You No Shame,” which was written by one of Wood’s mentors, the legendary Atlanta musician and songwriter Donnie McCormick. Jano even pulls double-duty as producer & musician, anchoring the album’s mix of mystery & melody with his percussion & keyboards. Despite the stacked guest list, some of Fat Cat Silhouette‘s best moments find Wood and Rix working together as a duo. On “Little Worries,” Wood sketches a picture of a reflective morning in his armchair, a cat in the window, pancakes in the skillet, anxieties crossing and leaving his mind — over Rix’s inventive pulse. Later, when time constraints prevented them from adding horns to “Star in the Corner,” they chose to sing the horn parts instead. A little less typical, indeed. That might as well be Fat Cat Silhouette’s mission statement. This is an album that finds the art in the unexpected, and Oliver Wood, whose songwriting & vocal chops remain as sharp as ever, at his most adventurous.

It has been a long time that Oliver Wood and I have been catching up about what is going on. I have had his brother Chris on a few times as well to talk Wood Brothers, but t s typically Oliver who plays catch-up. He is going to be at the Stoughton Opera House on April 30th with Dave & Dave of Trampled By Turtles, and Seth Walker. We north marveled over the possibilities of what his night could be bringing and then got into what a solo set of his could shape up into. He reminded us a little about how his most recent release, ‘Fat Cat Silhouette’ went down and we even got into a little bit about his work on Seth Walker’s new album which dropped on April 4th. It’s always nice to hear his voice on the other end of the phone, not quite as great as hearing it singing songs, but I am thinking this treat we will be getting at the Opera House is going to be one of those that is hard to forGet.

Photo-by: Alysse Gafkjen

In the midst of recording his 12th album, wavering in his resolve to finish what he’d started, Seth Walker came to a realization. No album is trapped in amber, no song is set in stone. Distance colors compositions over the years and each album is left as a reflection of its own period in time. This idea played a big part in shaping ‘Why The Worry’. Now, the other half of knowing is letting go; letting go of the worry about perception, the worry of over-preparation, and the worry that seeps in constantly from the news and noise of everyday life. The new album finds Walker reunited with old friends and familiar names. Once again Jano Rix steps behind the boards, co-producing the album with Seth & engineer Brook Sutton. In the producer’s 5th outing he’s become an invaluable sounding board, the kind who knows what’s missing and, just as importantly, what needs to be taken away. Oliver Wood (The Wood Brothers) lends a pen to the title track, and Seth’s classically trained father Scott adds strings to “I’m Getting Ready,” a song penned by Walker’s contemporary Michael Kiwanuka. Mostly, though, the record was shepherded into shape by Walker’s trio, rounded out by longtime confidants Rhees Williams (Guitar, Piano) & Mark Raudabaugh (Drums). The 3 let the studio guide them, entering without agenda, set straight by the title’s mantra to stop worrying where they’d end up. But worry always tries to creep in. It’s inevitable, isn’t it? The album was just about finished when Hurricane Helene hit Walker’s region in the mountains around Asheville, and as a result, the record almost didn’t see light. As catastrophe took shape and literal bridges were broken, the album’s importance wavered in Seth’s mind until the central theme came back into view. The worry wouldn’t undo any damage, and there was still service in song. There’s a telling nod in the album closing with Bobby Charles’ seminal ode “I Must Be In a Good Place Now.” Why The Worry is a spiritual reset, watching the sunrise over the mountains. It soaks in like warmth on the skin after a night of shivering in the dark. Charles isn’t the only notable scribe among the track list, an even mix of Walker’s originals and a carefully curated crop of covers that rifle through the past and present. Setting the course are two gems from JJ Cale, whose sanguine saunter leans well into the album’s themes of amble and ease. Walker opens the album with the smoke ring sway of Bill Withers, turning the lights low for a gently funked rendition of “The Same Love That Made Me Laugh.” The groove grows deeper on Al Green’s “Take Me To The River,” putting a distinctly reclined feel on the soul classic. The breezy feeling extends to the originals as well, injecting a bit of Cale’s country funk into “Up On The Mountain,” soaking spring air and hope into “Supernatural Thing,” and melting nostalgia into meditation on “Midway Girl.” Why The Worry follows a string of critically acclaimed albums from Walker, garnering praise from NPR to The Washington Post. He’s been found on the road with The Mavericks, The Wood Brothers, Raul Malo, Paul Thorn and Ruthie Foster among others. He recently penned “Moon and Stars” – the title track to The Mavericks new album, sung as a duet with Sierra Ferrell. Walker’s latest album Why The Worry is out on tomorrow, on Royal Potato Family.

I had the chance to catch back up with Seth Walker (it has been a few years since last we spoke and I’ve been paying attention) and he will be back this way on April 30th at the Stoughton Opera House with Dave & Dave of Trampled By Turtles and his longtime pal (doing a short run with) Oliver Wood. What a incredible line-up for all of us who get to be a part of it. He sounded as blown away as I feel about it. We got into the joy of this upcoming show, but we started with getting into his brand new (just dropped April 4th) album ‘Why The Worry’ on Royal Potato Family Records. We kinda go seed to flower, dissect a few tunes off the release, and discuss how he and Oliver worked on their offering on the record and more. When I said I have been paying attention, it all comes back to this moment and this album, it’s really got that truth to it that I search for. Seth also gives some thought to a setlist and he gives love and props to our pal Kevin over at Royal Potato Family. Finally, we will have to check in and find out who wins the tennis matches on this short run. Deuce.

Photo by: Parker Pfister

mssv, made of guitarist Mike Baggetta, Stephen Hodges on drums & mike watt on bass, creates music that is an unimagined hybrid of a punk power-trio, noir-tinged adventure music & a dreamy experimental rock band, though they prefer the term “post-genre.” Their latest full-length album On And On is the 3rd studio album featuring brand new songs that were written by Mike Baggetta before their 58-show 2023 US tour and performed every night, then recorded & produced by Chris Schlarb at BIG EGO Studio in Long Beach, CA immediately after, and features artwork by the great John Herndon (Tortoise, A Grape Dope, Isotope 217). The digital version of the album features these 8 separate, boundary-pushing tracks, while the limited edition vinyl features these pieces joined into 2 continuous side-long movements by 6 additional band-improvised interludes. The subject matter here, while being universally relatable, is filled with personal references, stories of his and the band’s friends & relationships, and one song Despair & Hilarity includes lyrics written by one of Baggetta’s most important musical collaborators, Steve Gigante (currently of OMFU + The Scrapers, (VIP) Ditchfork, formerly of W-S Burn, 7 Year Rabbit Cycle). Continuing to explore the seemingly endless depths of Hodges’ & watt’s musicianship & skill over the many tours & albums in mssv has grown an instantly identifiable sound from Baggetta’s songwriting for this band. But the trust that has formed between them, that comes from long-running musical partnerships, has also made it possible for mssv to explore more interesting ways to incorporate improvised music into the lives of their songs. On And On skillfully combines all of these elements into a newly evolved lens for the music of mssv, deftly displayed in this album as a high concept love letter to everyday life. There’s no telling which way the band will turn at any given moment, a proposition that becomes a promise when they break down and reassemble these songs live, with an instinct for restraint and an openness to anarchy.

I had the pleasure of catching up aGain with Mike Baggetta as mms embarks on a new tour (52 shows in a row) with a stop here in Madison on April 17th at the Gamma Ray Bar. We get into talk about the live experience. I was ready to share my thoughts after seeing them the last time they were here. There is not a lot of ways to describe the journey the trio takes you on when we all are aboard in the same room. We go head long into the new album, ‘On & On’, getting a taste of what it was like working through the songs while they were out on the last long run of live shows. We talk a 7 inch new single called ‘Even So’, on the flip side of Thousand Dollar Movies’ ‘Block Out The Sun’ on Four Fingers Records as well as working in more lyrical content. So many people would like to get a chance to go see this trio live, I say take a trip to the closest space they are going to be at – it’ll be worth the ride(s).

Larry & Joe is the duo of Joropo maestro Larry Bellorín (Monagas, Venezuela) & Grammy-nominated bluegrass & oldtime star Joe Troop (Winston-Salem, North Carolina). These two virtuosic multi-instrumentalists fuse their respective Venezuelan and Appalachian folk traditions on the harp, banjo, cuatro, fiddle, upright bass, guitar, and maracas to prove that music has no borders. Their engaging bilingual (esp / eng) program includes storytelling, humor, singalongs & dancing. Larry hails from Monagas, Venezuela and is a legend of Llanera music. Joe is from North Carolina and is a GRAMMY-nominated bluegrass and oldtime musician. Larry was forced into exile and is an asylum seeker in North Carolina. Joe, after a decade in South America, got stranded back in his stomping grounds in the pandemic. Larry worked construction to make ends meet. Joe’s acclaimed “latingrass” band Che Apalache was forced into hiatus, and he shifted into action working with asylum seeking migrants. Then Larry met Joe. Currently based in the Triangle of North Carolina, both men are versatile multi-instrumentalists and singer-songwriters on a mission to show that music has no borders. As a duo they perform a fusion of Venezuelan and Appalachian folk music on harp, banjo, cuatro, fiddle, maracas, guitar, upright bass, and whatever else they decide to throw in the van. The program they offer features a distinct blend of their musical inheritances and traditions as well as storytelling about the ways that music and social movements coalesce.

I had the chance to catch up with Joe Troop ahead of Larry & Joe heading into Madison on February 5th at Arts & Literature Laboratory. Joe and I spend some time defining what a Larry & Joe event will be like, from the history of the music to the even futuristic sounds of this unique duo. Joe and I discuss the creation of their brand new album ‘Manos Panamericanos‘ and how it went from idea to final product, but moreover, we talk about what goes into it and how it will translate into their live events. The very interesting part of this duo besides the sounds they create toGether, is how the two met and began their relationship, as artists but more importantly, as people. Finally, Joe gets a chance to build a setlist around one (or two) of their tunes and we do learn about some of the Wisconsin type experiences, including walleye, Supper clubs and of course, cheese they look forward to partaking in.

G. Love & Special Sauce is an American Hip-Hop Blues band known for its unique fusion of hip-hop, blues, funk, & soul musics. Formed in 1993 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the band originally featured Garrett Dutton, aka G. Love, as the lead vocalist & guitarist, Jeffrey Clemens on drums, & Jim Prescott on bass. The trio quickly gained attention for their laid-back, groovy style and G. Love’s unique vocal delivery, blending rap-like spoken word with bluesy ‘sanging’. Their debut self-titled album, ‘G. Love & Special Sauce’, was released in 1994 on Epic Records and included the hit single “Cold Beverage,” which became popular on alternative radio stations & MTV, solidifying their presence in the music scene. The band’s style has been described as a mix of “slacker blues” & “alternative hip-hop,” as they frequently incorporate elements of 90s hip-hop beats with classic blues rhythms. Over the years, G. Love & Special Sauce has released numerous albums, including Coast to Coast Motel (1995), Yeah, It’s That Easy (1997), The Electric Mile (2001) and the GRAMMY nominated The Juice (2020). Their sound evolved to include more soul, R&B, and rock influences, though they retained their laid-back vibe and clever lyrical play. Their 2014 album Sugar saw a reunion of the original lineup after several years, and they continued to tour and produce music with a loyal fan base. Known for their energetic live performances, G. Love & Special Sauce has played at festivals like Bonnaroo & Lollapalooza. Garrett Dutton also frequently collaborates with other artists, including Jack Johnson, with whom he shares a similar vibe, and has released solo projects that dive deeper into his blues influences. G. Love & Special Sauce remains a beloved name in the music scene, blending genres in a way that feels fresh & authentic.

It is always a good time when I get a chance to catch up with family to the program, G Love. This time he is heading on back to Madison with The Special Sauce to get busy at the High Noon Saloon on January 8th. We get into what someone who doesn’t know might find out if they attend this show. We spend a good amount of time discussing an album that both of us think didn’t hit in the ‘rankings’ as much as it should have, the 2022 release ‘Philadelphia Mississippi‘. This outstanding collection really made me go back in time to my first taste of the special sauce, that combination of both raw blues AND hip hop really sat well with me and this album has that feeling. We specifically call out the working with Mr. R.L. Boyce in particular, and G spills the beans on an upcoming release (due around April 2025) from the overflow of tunes worked on with Mr. Boyce (he since has passed) during this original session. Since it is right around the holidays, we get into his new Christmas music, especially ‘Fishing For Christmas’ and how much he loves to create the holiday tunes, and how a little different this one went down. Which brings me to a couple of times we get into the business of it all, we both find the art more important than the money, but it is amazing who gets to have it all. We talk L.L. Cool J & Taylor Swift as well as what would we be spinning on his console if we got toGether to spin some tunes. Just two G’s once again keepin’ it real for the people who feel.

An explosive trio of 3 nationalities, A Love Electric, hailed as the tomorrow of creative rock by Mexico City’s leading newspaper, La Jornada, performs at some of the world’s finest rock festivals, jazz clubs, & cultural landmarks. Led by guitarist/vocalist Todd Clouser, a voice recognized as at the forefront of a new generation of genre redefining artists, A Love Electric carries the sonic legacies of psychedelic rock, New York City’s downtown scene, and introspective song into new territories. Having performed all over the globe, ALE has gained praise from critics and fans of rock, jazz, & experimental musics alike. A Love Electric is Todd Clouser (guitar and vocals), Aaron Cruz (bass), and Hernan Hecht (drums), Hecht a Latin Grammy winner for his work as drummer and producer. The three musicians have performed with Steven Bernstein, Anton Fier, Billy Martin, Cyro Baptista, members of Dire Straits, Keb Mo, Tim Berne, Ely Guerra, and more. In there years of aggressive touring throughout the United States, Germany, Spain, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Mexico, and Argentina, A Love Electric have documented their evolution into creative rock supergroup on three records from Brooklyn, NY’s The Royal Potato Family and a solo Clouser album Billy Martin‘s label, Amulet Records. A Love Electric now sits with a sound and approach all its own, defying category & inspiring audiences with their impassioned and prolific approach to creating. A new generation of idea is here. With many more recordings and sonic journeys under each other’s musical belts, now here we find ourselves dodging weirdness in 2024 and there’s more new music and opportunities to see Todd and A Love Electric to aide in making it all seem better.

The best thing about catching up with Todd is that it usually means he is coming to town. This time around it is going to be October 12th at the North Street Cabaret with A Love Electric. I have been ready for this for a long time!! We get into some of the possibilities the night of music could bring and dive head first into the newest album he put out with JT Bates and friend of the proGram, Mr. John Medeski. It’s a ‘surf’ music album titled ‘New Flamingo Magic’. The week Todd and I chatted it up, another friend of the show, Carnage the Execution was in Mexico for a few nights of making differences and making a difference. One of the things Todd does is the give back, so we talk about one of the ways he does it through an annual festival called ‘Lakeside Guitar Festival‘ and his Music Mission Foundation. He and his pal, Molly Maher, who Todd does a lot of his giveback work with, are going to have an opportunity to open for Los Lobos coming up soon as well, so, why not put a little notice on that spectacular event. To hit the old refresh button, Todd took some time off from performing (which does not sound normal to me…for him), so we talk about where he may have found some inspiration or new feelings.

The music that Sam’s father and friend of the program, Mr. David Grisman and his close friend, Jerry Garcia, made in the early 90s (in the house that Sam grew up in) is not only some of the most timeless acoustic music ever recorded, it also triggers his oldest and fondest musical memories. What Sam finds most inspiring about this material is the way their camaraderie and their love and joy for the music, simply oozes out of each recording. It is also impressive how deeply they get beneath their favorite songs—whether they are originals, covers or traditional/old time tunes—and how expertly that material was curated. The goal in starting Sam Grisman Project is to build a platform for his friends and himself to showcase their genuine passion and appreciation for the legacy of Dawg and Jerry’s music. By playing some of their beloved repertoire and sharing the original music that their own collective has to offer, they will also show the impact that this music has had on their own individual musical voices. Ultimately, there is nothing that makes Sam happier than playing great songs with his best friends and the true hope is to share that happiness with audiences all over!

I had the pleasure of hanGin’ out with Sam ahead of the September 21st event at the Stoughton Opera House when he brings over the Sam Grisman Project for a little good time acoustic music. We get into the music, the love for and of it, the love and friendship between his friends who help him make the sounds go for the rest of us and how they all gained a deeper respect for the music over the years. We talk about the relationship between his dad and Jerry Garcia, and how playing some of the tunes they worked on has enlightened him as an artist and frankly, we just had a good time, like we were sitting out on the back porch catching up. Sam had recently both PHIL’d in for Phil Lesh and played with Peter Rowan, so I had to find out about those times. As I suspected, cool cool cool. I have a good, maybe grateful feeling that anyone who goes to see Sam and his pals live, or finds a way to get their hands on the new music when it comes out, will be reminded of times gone by and friends that will always be near and dear.

For over fifty years, music has been Bernard Allison’s essence. As the youngest son of the much-missed Chicago bandleader Luther Allison, he was a bluesman from birth, naturally drawn to this ancient music that seemed to heal deep wounds, and held spellbound by early encounters with heavyweights like Muddy Waters, Albert King & Hound Dog Taylor. Shuttled between Florida & Illinois as a child, but never separated from his guitar, by 12, Bernard was a fireball player himself, and at 18, he commanded instant respect as his dad’s guest at the 1983 Chicago Blues Festival. One week after graduating high school, Bernard cut his teeth on the road with Koko Taylor’s Blues Machine lineup and ended up staying for most of the ’80s. By the close of the decade, however, he assumed a twin identity, leading & writing for his father’s band, while forging a solo career that exploded in Europe off the back of early albums like The Next Generation (1990), No Mercy (1994) and Funkifino (1995). Across his respected career, Bernard has certainly tasted the highs. Just ask him for his memories of jamming with Stevie Ray Vaughan on his 16th birthday.“He contacted my mom and said he and Double Trouble were going to surprise me after their show.” Or being given a lesson by the Texas tornado himself, “Johnny Winter sat me down and taught me how to play slide in open tuning.” But even when the lows bit, like losing Luther to cancer in 1997, just as his career was peaking, Bernard has defied his circumstances. That same year’s solo album, Keepin’ The Blues Alive, might as well have been his mission statement, and Bernard has spent the last quarter-century both honoring his father and exploring his own voice during a constantly flourishing solo career.

I had the honor of spending a little time with Bernard Allison to get into what his set at The Sessions at McPike Park on August 10 here in Madison will be like. We talk about the real fun that he and his band are having while playing with and for folks. Bernard is sure to remind that this is all about representing the Allison name. We talk energy and style, his and what his father was known for. Bernard and mates had just gotten back from a European tour, which led naturally into discussing how his father Luther was beloved overseas and that family/community feel is still alive and rockin’ whenever he shows up for a gig/festival. Madison Wisconsin holds a special spot for Bernard as his dad hung out here as a place to fish and set the stage for more business, music business that is. So, this welcome back to Madison is going to be one for the books, just like the latest album on Ruf Records (a label created with/by Luther & Thomas Ruf) aptly titled ‘Luther’s Blues’ and how playing his dad’s songs, some with a recreated sprit, serves to keep a legacy alive from the past, into the present and through the future. The entire conversation seems to revolve around not only the music, but family, community and the recognition and acknowledgements of forward progress from the places and people that have touched/taught him as a person AND as an artist. I mean this cat was shown certain things from Johnny Winter & Stevie Ray Vaughn (we touch on some of this as well – how could we not?). I will Guarentee that if you are open to having a good time, Bernard Allison and his band will give you more than you can handle.