Jump On or In

The middle part of the proGram had steps or splash built in.

Nothingville- Dale Watson
Starvation Box- Dale Watson
Tejas Motel- Ole Lonesome


greenarrowwradio promo- Mark Cameron
Sorry- Mark Cameron
Amsterdam Blues- Reverend Freakchild
Hippy Bluesman Blues- Reverend Freakchild


***pre-recorded conversation with Rökker from Atwoodfest***
Jericho- Jane Lee Hooker
***pre-recorded conversation w/Hightop of Jane Lee Hooker***
Jane Lee Hooker Drive- Jane Lee Hooker

Feel That- Helen Kelter Skelter
Ship Of Fools- Helen Kelter Skelter

Hop On

First part of this week’s proGram had a nice landing spot.

Tiger By The Tail- Willie Nelson
Busted- Willie Nelson
Just in Time- Rickie Lee Jones
Crazy in My Mind- Erin Viancourt
Memphis In My Mind- Whitney Rose
Stranger In a Strange Land- Margo Price


Ladder of Love- Lukas Nelson & Promise of the Real
Close The Bets- Kyle Nix & The 38’s
Keep It on A Burner- Margo Ciker
Standing Here- Colter Wall
Rich Rudy- The Pink Stones


Southern Star- Brent Cobb
Mean Old Sun- Turnpike Troubadours
The Sun’s Gonna Rise Again- Summer Dean
Wild Bill- Dallas Burrow
Cuz I Love You- Joshua Ray Walker

Jane Lee Hooker Back In Madison

Jane Lee Hooker exploded out of New York City in 2015, with members having spent time playing in Nashville Pussy, Bad Wizard, Helldorado, Lez Zeppelin, NYC punk rockers The Wives & Plasmatics offshoot New Hope. The band released a revved up album of Blues covers titled ‘No B!’ in 2016, and were immediately signed to legendary German Blues label Ruf Records. ‘Spiritus’ followed in 2017 and found Jane Lee Hooker touring extensively in support of these records – performing to packed houses across the US and Europe including Germany, France, Austria, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, the Czech Republic & Luxembourg. While Jane Lee Hooker’s blend of rock, blues, punk, R&B & soul pays respect to the greats of the past, this is a band that lives fiercely in the present tense. JLH’s fiery performances have made them a must-see live act, and feature the dynamically muscular lead guitars of Tracy ‘Hightop’ & Tina ‘T-Bone’ Gorin, the rock-solid rhythm section of bassist Mary Z and drummer Lightnin’ Ron Salvo and the full ranged, soul-scorching lead vocals courtesy of Dana “Danger” Athens. In a world full of manufactured bands and live shows backed up by hard-drives, Jane Lee Hooker play rock ‘n’ roll the way it’s meant to be played – loud and with uncompromised passion. You can easily feel that Jane Lee Hooker loves to play live and share their music with their fans around the globe.

I had the pleasure of catching up with Hightop ahead of Jane Lee Hooker’s upcoming set at Atwoodfest 2023 on July 30th as they help close the party out. It has been too long since JLH has been to Madison and Hightop misses this place as much as we miss them. The love of how they feel when they rock with us is shared and highly reciprocated, and now they’ll be back where it all beGan. Since it has been a bit since they last rawwwkkkked with us, we talk about what songs (especially the newer ones) we can expect to blow us away live in Madison, and how the ‘tune up’ went as they just got back from a wild time in Europe. I have no doubt if the first time you catch Jane Lee Hooker is when they hit Atwoodfest 2023, you will walk away, maybe head bangin’ away with a feeling of some new rockin’ friends coming into your lives.

Photo By: Rob Carter

Talkin’ Atwoodfest with Rökker

Here we are in the perfect part of Summer for Madison’s outdoor and free music and arts festivals. Atwoodfest is an east-side neighborhood tradition, it’s a block party that keeps on growing! I had a chance to catch up with the man who helps put together the music the people get to enjoy on the yearly,Rökker. We spend some time going over what is new this year and man, there is plenty of newness going on this year. Since Rökker helps choose te acts, we talk a bout the thnking that goes on to try and have people feel torn about which stage when for their entertaining choices. We talk a little about many of the bands playing Atwoodfest 2023 and who this event ultimately helps out. Speaking of helping out, there is always room for you to volunteer!

Music Lineups:
Saturday, July 29

Clyde Stubblefield Stage: 12:00 PM Moon Gypsies; 1:45 PM The Stephen Hull Experience; 3:45 PM Steepwater Band; 5:45 PM New Primitives; 8:00 PM VO5 (stage sponsor: The Bur Oak and Weichert, Realtors – Lakepoint)

Madison Heritage Stage: 12:00 PM Forró Fo Sho; 1:15 PM Elizabeth Mary & Paul Schluter; 2:45 PM Butter Brick; 4:30 PM Frank Martin Busch and the Names; 6:30 PM Kyle Megna & The Monsoons; 8:30 PM Miles Nielsen & The Rusted Hearts (stage sponsor: The Alchemy Cafe)

Sugar Maple Stage: Teen Fest produced by Madison Music Foundry: 12:00 PM The Sandblasters, 1:00 PM The Blue Dyes, 1:50 PM SLAG; Sugar Maple Concert Series: 3:00 PM Tony Casteñeda Mambo Combo, 4:30 PM, Katie Powderly & Her Bluegrass Boys, 6:00 PM Piper Road Spring Band (stage sponsor: The Lauer Realty Group)

Sunday, July 30

Clyde Stubblefield Stage: 12:00 PM Steely Dane, 2:00 PM Kirstie Kraus, 3:45 PM God’s Outlaw, 5:30 PM Jane Lee Hooker (stage sponsor: The Bur Oak and Weichert, Realtors – Lakepoint)

Madison Heritage Stage: 12:00 PM Seasaw, 1:45 PM Lynda & the Zeros, 3:30 PM Porky’s Groove Machine, 5:30 PM Dub Foundation featuring Jah Boogie (stage sponsor: The Alchemy Cafe)

Sugar Maple Stage: Kids That Rock produced by Forward Craft & Coffee: 12:00 PM Charlieboy, 1:30 PM Jane Hobson Band; Sugar Maple Series: 3:00 PM The Donna Herula Band, 5:00 PM Joel Paterson Trio (stage sponsor: The Lauer Realty Group)

Crying Nut & Say Sue Me At Lincoln Center

Presented in collaboration with Korean Cultural Center New York

As part of Lincoln Center’s spotlight on Korean artists this summer, from afar I got to join Seoul punk and indie rock pioneers Crying Nut and Busan surf-rock indie band Say Sue Me for an energetic taste of Korean rock n roll! Crying Nut became a household name in South Korea following their performances at the 2002 FIFA World Cup and Say Sue Me won Best Modern Rock Album and Best Modern Rock Song at the 2019 Korean Music Awards. This rare opportunity to see both bands performing in New York City must have been amaing in person since it was easy to feel some of that enerGy all the way here in Madison, WI.

The Shape I’m In

The final portion of the proGram this week noticed SUM things people may miss.

Soul & Science- Nickodemus Ft. The Real Live Show & Indigo Prodigy
No Puedo Parar- Nickodemus Ft. Barzo, Troy Simms & Jungle Fever Horns
Samba Moosh- Moriah Plaza
Trouble- Emilia Sisco Ft. Cold Diamond & Mink


Spread Love- Franck & Damien Ft. Joaco Teran

Lighthouse- Vicente Archer
It Takes Two To Know One (Alt Take)- Vicente Archer
Brandon Seabrook Gutbucket Asylum- Brandon Seabrook
The Perils of Self-Betterment- Brandon Seabrook


Risk Taker- C.Tappin
The Takedown- John Carroll Kirby
Mates- John Carroll Kirby


Crossing Borders Music Overture: Crossing Cultures Ft. Gaurav Mazumdar

Looked Right Up There

Mid part of the proGram laid down and looked up towards it.

Intersextion- The Oscillators
Let’s Get There- The Oscillators
Emulsify- The Oscillators
Fall Right In- Eddie Roberts & George Porter Jr.
Mud Flap- Eddie Roberts & George Porter Jr.


Jungle Love- The Time
***pre-recorded conversation with St. Paul Peterson***
The Bird- The Time

Saudade- Piero Umiliani Ft. Maria De Penha Silva, Wilson Das Neves
Macumba- Piero Umiliani Ft. Wilson Das Neves


Ganja Day- Bahama Soul Club Ft. Naomi Falcon
The Rooster- Bahama Soul Club Ft. Josephine Nightingale
Never Regret a Day- African Head Charge & King Ayisoba
Microdosing- African Head Charge


Hot Dub Party- Spacewalk
Prescription Dubs- Spacewalk
Shake- Captain Planet Ft. David Walters

Bees Knees To Live

The first part of this week’s proGram popped up for nibblin’.

I Can’t Stop Rockin’- Tim Woods
Mimic- Tim Woods
Shake It Up- The Weber Brothers
Memphis Slim U.S.A.- Memphis Slim with Matt Guitar Murphy


greenarrowradio promo- Franck L. Goldwasser
Skwurley- Franck L. Goldwasser
Sobby Doggie Boogie- Franck L. Goldwasser


Aitma- Bombino

I Inside the Old I Dying- PJ Harvey
Seem an I- PJ Harvey
High Vibrationz- Kuf Knotz & Christine Elise
Keep Stepping- MELONYX
Black Elixir- MELONYX
Amöban- Little Dragon


Feel Like Makin’ Love- SuperShy Ft. Roberta Flack

ST. PAUL AND THE MINNEAPOLIS FUNK ALL STARS

One of the best musicians to emerge from the Twin Cities, St. Paul appeared in Purple Rain as a teenage wunderkind, playing keys with The Time on hits like “Jungle Love” and “The Bird.” He was hand-picked by Prince himself to be lead singer of The Family (best known for “Nothing Compares 2 U”) on Prince’s Paisley Park label. In the tradition of Motown’s Funk Brothers, St. Paul has assembled the who’s who crew of the Minneapolis Sound with St. Paul & The Minneapolis Funk All-stars, showcasing those who wrote, produced, performed, or sung on some of the biggest hits from the heyday of electro funk-rock in the Twin Cities.

Their incredible show: “THE MINNEAPOLIS SOUNDS” is now a National Tour!!

I had the pleasure of catching up with St Paul Peterson ahead of the July 27th event at the >Majestic Madison where St. Paul and the Minneapolis Funk All Stars will be brinGing all the hits of some of the most important grooves to be born with many of the original players, the people who have this sound running through their veins. We get into these artists that’ll be doing this thang here in Madison, the amazing history of the Minneapolis Sound and how carrying on the legacy has taken on a new meaning now without Prince. We talk Prince, The Family & The Time of course as well as a little Purple Rain, because, well, how could we not. I ask St. Paul to by=uild a set list around some of the artists he has worked with and the list is of course, diverse like we like it here on the proGram, and in that same vein, he shares a new thing he is up to, his Funk Fridays series he is doing on social media, sending out a groove to others from his rolodex and putting it together. While this will be his first time playing in Madison, he is well connected here with Ben Sidran sited as a pal. Gonna be an amazing time in Madison. Hit Me!!

The All-stars include (Bolded members will appear in Madison):

Jellybean Johnson – Drummer for The Time and The Family.
Dr. Fink – Keyboardist for Prince and the Revolution.
Kirk Johnson – Drummer for Prince and the NPG.
Elisa Fiorillo – Singer for Prince and the NPG.
Oliver Leiber – Producer of Paula Abdul and guitarist with Tamara and The Seen.
Jason Peterson DeLaire – Keys and saxophone with Solo and Carmen Electra.
Horn Heads – Horn section for Prince.
Homer O’Dell – Mint Condition
St. Paul Peterson – The Time and The Family

Into Purples

The final part of this week’s proGram splashed into the deep.

I Want a New Dub- Spacewalk
Fiesta Mágica- Tensnake
Be You You You- Uncle Jumbo


Ultra Violet- Kuf Knotz & Christine Elise
**pre-recorded conversation with Kuf Knotz & Christine Elise**
Window Pain- Kuf Knotz & Christine Elise Ft. Screech


Mirage- Captain Planet Ft. Taj Bethel
The Shadow Thief- Nickodemus Ft. Alsarah
Hotel Jonny Chingas- John Carroll Kirby


Hossland- Michael Davis/Hip-Bone Big Band
Bone Man Walking- Michael Davis/Hip-Bone Big Band
Maid in Mexico- The Pacific Jazz Group, Dred Scott Trio & Eric Crystal
Utter Chaos- The Pacific Jazz Group, Dred Scott Trio & Eric Crystal

The Dangle In

The middle part of this week’s proGram went at it from several ways.

FLorida Man- Selwyn Birchwood
Exorcist- Selwyn Birchwood
Bloodshot Eyes- Doug Deming & The Jewel Tones
Mama Didn’t Raise No Fool- Doug Deming & The Jewel Tones


Take Off The Crown- Sultans of String Ft. Raven Kanatakta

Racecar- The 3 Clubmen
I’m A Good Woman- Angels Of Libra & Maiiah
Come Around and Love Me- Jalen Ngonda
Reflections- Jr Thomas & Cutlass Cream


Chaser- Piero Umiliani
Hard Times- Piero Umiliani
Crying Clown- The Faithful Brothers
Jazzamatazz- Eddie Roberts & George Porter Jr. Ft. Erica Falls, Robert Walter & Nikki Glaspie

Diving Into It

The beGinning part of this week’s show was one step away at all times.

Wildflowers- Forest Sun Ft. Kelly McFarling & Lia Rose
Just Like You, River- Ed Snodderly Ft. Amythyst Kiah
Misbehavin’ Mama- Nat Myers
Mirror and a Kitchen Sink- Tommy Prine
Cash Carter Hill- Tommy Prine


The Orange Flag- Deaf Charlie
Ched Man- Deaf Charlie
Fourth of July- Steve Conte


Ground Zero- Location Location Location
Verdigris- Location Location Location
2122- Geese


Interstellar Resorption 5- Geiger von Muller
G In Georgia- Tyler Neal
The Bait In the Snare- Nick Moss Band Ft. Dennis Gruenling
It Shocks Me Out- Nick Moss Band Ft. Dennis Gruenling

Hypnagogia From Kuf Knotz & Christine Elise

Christine Elise is classically trained harpist, pianist, & vocalist who has been consecutively touring across North America for the past 4 years. Studying music therapy at a masters level led her to find a passion for community music therapy. She has facilitated group sessions & workshops for professionals & clients in the USA, South Africa, Peru & Jamaica. She has presented at national, regional, & world music therapy conferences and written scholarly articles published by Music Therapy Perspectives. She has provided clinical supervision for undergraduate and graduate students at MusicWorks, Jamaica Field Service Project, Women’s & Children’s Hospital of Buffalo, NY, Warren Wilson College, & Immaculata University. Christine taught as an adjunct professor for the music therapy department of Immaculata University College of Graduate Studies and Boyer College of Music and Dance of Temple University for several undergraduate and graduate level classes. She has composed for various organizations & institutions. Recent commissions include The Free Project Series, for Pennsylvania Humanities Council, What Does Freedom Mean to Me? as part of the The Dedication of the Commemorative to Enslaved Peoples of Southern Maryland for St. Mary’s College of Maryland, Club House Theme Song for AHA Studio for Integrated Therapies and over 20 original compositions for Autism Across the Globe, directed by Rima J. Irani or Lebanon.
Named Philadelphia Magazine Best Rapper of 2022, Kuf Knotz Blends hiphop poetry with deep grooves of soul and beats sun kissed with the spirit of Lo-Fi & 90’s era vibes , Kuf’s inimitable style focuses on unsubtle spirituality, that, like his music, focus on unity, positivity & creativity. In 2008, the same year he opened for Bruce Springsteen, Kuf sang lead vocals on “Unstoppable,” a song created to mark the Philadelphia Phillies winning the World Series. In 2010, he recorded “Boombox Logic,” which was named the year’s best hip hop song by the Independent Music Awards. His next venture, 2015’s A Positive Light,” reflected his carefully forged fusion of music styles. Kuf’s on-screen credits include a part on the hit FOX TV show “It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia.” He appeared in a Domino’s Pizza commercial and was a cast member in a music-based reality show. Film and video are close to Kuf’s heart; he earned a degree in video production from the Art Institute of Philadelphia. Kuf has opened for The Roots, Ms. Lauryn Hill, Common, Wyclef Jean, The Wailers, Arrested Development, Josh Ritter Robert Glasper, Robert Randolph, G-Love and others. In 2018, Christine & Kuf founded a community music therapy outreach performance project called Higher Grounds Music, using the power of music, clinical training, and performance experience to foster personal growth. Working in a strength based model, the workshops/performances are designed to support participants in building skills to build confidence, increase motivation and drive and strengthen self-care skills.

I had the pleasure of catching up with Christine & Kuf a short time after they were in Madison, opening up for friend of the program, Wax Tailor. We got into the entire thng from how the brand new album ‘Hypnagogia’ came about, the process the went through and go through to create toGether, and we even dissected 2 tracks from the record. The first track we go into features Speech from Arrested Developement, so we chart the path of that tune (including who turned it down)and the other track selected to open into is the one that I see/feel inside my mindspace as well as my ear holes. That is the part about their music that really I really appreciate so much, they make music that I feel and see at times – there’s plenty to feel on this new record. The conversation here is rich and real and that is the real reason I wanted to connect. I selfishly do want to have them stay here in Madison to do some workshops as part of their Higher Grounds Music project and have performance open others minds, bodies and spirits to a positive vibe that is contagious, and feels good to pass along to others.

Tree Gold

The final part of the fill-in proGram went out to the end of the limb.

Jiji Mo Ji- Ekiti Sound
Fuji On One- Ekiti Sound
Ku Isu- Ekiti Sound
Italotape- Erobique


Konko- Baba Kuboye
Playground- Juryman


Make You My Queen- Duane Stephenson
Dancehall History- Lt. Stitchie
Spitfire- Groundation


Long Time- Gentleman’s Dub Club Ft. Sara Lugo
I Chant Too- African Head Charge
Push Me Pull You- African Head Charge

City Flier

The middle part of the fill in 4th proGram sees they belong where they are.

Destello- Captain Planet Ft. Tagua Tagua
Break Through to My Heart- Captain Planet Ft. Maiya Sykes
Extraordinaire- Calibro 35
Gun Powder- Calibro 35
Track Suit- The Oscillators
Packet O’ Cheese- The Oscillators


The Other One- Dave McMurray Ft. Bob James
Truckin’- Dave McMurray
Flower (Find My Baby (Resound Version)- Moby Ft. Amythyst Kiah
Run On (Resound Version)- Moby Ft. Danielle & Elijah Ponder


Just Like You Used To- Jalen Ngonda
Flashback- Immy Owuso
Nchiwewe (Ode to Willie Nelson)- Keturah

Finding That One

Did a little Fill-in proGram on a day most take off, to find, what?

Taiga- Ransel
Never Ever- Secret Night Gang
Shakti- Nickodemus Ft. Falu
Rumba Tobacco y Ron- Nickodemus Ft. Haydee Soul & The Candela Allstars


Heartquake- L’Impératrice Ft. Cuco
Made to Suffer- MELONYX


Algorithm Friendly Unit Shifter- Kidkanevil
Born to Win Yah- Jojo Abot


Pura- Novalima W/La Dame Blanche
Vevede- Vincent Ahehehinnou
Cabaça- Diogo Ramos
Fela’s Afrobeat- David Tayorault


Sabroso Como El Guarapo- Dany Martinez & His Charanga

If You Do

The final part of this week’s proGram grows with ease.

Implicit Attitude- Ben Rosenblum Nebula Project
***pre-recorded conversation with Ben Rosenblum***
Bulgares- Ben Rosenblum Nebula Project

On The Move- Javon Jackson
The Game- Javon Jackson
C.B.- Javon Jackson
A Lil’ Iown Get-Down- No Fast Food


Om Shanti Om- Sheila Chandra
Speaking in Tongues III- Sheila Chandra
Ayoka- Dobet Gnahoré


100 Words For Wind- Selcouth Quartet & Joe Russo & Floki Sessions

Chromesthesia- GreenTTea & GreenTTea & The Tempos
Amorosi Buio in Sala Rossa (feat. L.U.C.A.)- Dressel
Theme Song #2- Smirk
Thriller- Koncept


Not Easy- Richie Phoe & Kingston Express Ft. Amelia Harmony
Blue Monday (Dub)- Dubmatix Ft. Barry Ashworth
Lockatronic- Nevaris

Spiraling Through

The middle part of the proGram went either way but it was unknown until.

Jam It In- Paul Boddy & Slidewinder Blues Band
Not Like You- Soulful Femme Ft. Albert Castiglia
Talkin’ Loud and Sayin’ Nothing- Soulful Femme Ft. Tommy Castro


I’m Ready- Doug Deming & The Jewel Tones
Memphis Soul Stew- Arlen Roth & Jerry Jemmott Ft. Ronee Martin


New York Transit Queen- Corinne Bailey Rae
Jarocho Street- Todd Clouser Ft. Orestes Gomez, Last Jerónimo & Erik Deutsch
Kooks- Todd Clouser Ft. Orestes Gomez, Last Jerónimo & Erik Deutsch
Shürük- Koy Kardeşler


Vamos a Nadar- Peyoti for President
Novecentro E Mille- Calibro 35
Dinamometro- Calibro 35
Wind Up- Cookin’ On 3 Burners

Sharpen The Eargarden

The first part of this week’s proGram looked under the plants and found some sounds.

Better Just Ride The Mule- Ed Snodderly Ft. Amythyst Kiah
Chimney Smoke- Ed Snodderly Ft. Amythyst Kiah
Where’d My Surfers Go- Stephen Jacques


Dillsboro Blues- Darren Nicholson
Mountain High- Davisson Brothers Band
Eastern Kentucky- Davisson Brothers Band
Walk with Me- Diane & The Gentle Men & Alejandro Escovedo


High Hopes- Leon Creek Ft. Chris Pierce
Fungal Mountain Breakdown- JD Pinkus & Tall Tall Trees


Morning Rise- Lee Oskar
Run Around Lucy- Annie Bartholomew


Graveyard Gate- Nigel Mack
Hello, I Love You- Jeau James
House Rules- Joanna Connor
Hurts Me Too- Paul Boddy & Slidewinder Blues Band

Counting Pebbles with Ben Rosenblum Nebula Project

Award-winning New York City jazz pianist & accordionist Ben Rosenblum has been described as “mature beyond his years,” (Sea of Tranquility), an “impressive talent” (All About Jazz), who “caresses [the music] with the reverence it merits” (Downbeat Magazine). Since the release of his debut trio album, Instead, Mr. Rosenblum has toured extensively with his trio & sextet throughout the United States, including multiple trips to the Northeast, Midwest, South & West Coast, as well as internationally in Canada, Europe & Japan. He was a featured soloist at Carnegie Hall’s Stern-Perelman Auditorium – with Reona Ito’s New York Harmonic Band – and has appeared at prestigious venues throughout the world, including at the Appel Room at Lincoln Center, Kuumbwa Jazz Center, Ravinia, Himawari-No-Sato Concert Hall in Yokohama, Bird’s Eye in Basel and the Library of Congress. Rosenblum’s second trio album in 2018, River City, was called “richly romantic” and “well-realized” by JAZZIZ Magazine, which featured the title track as part of their Best of Fall 2018 CD. In 2020, he released his third album, Kites and Strings, which is the first to feature him on both piano & accordion alongside his new sextet, the Nebula Project. That year, the Nebula Project was voted runner-up for Best New Artist in JazzTimes’ Readers’ Poll. Most recently, Rosenblum released his fourth album, A Thousand Pebbles, in 2023. In May 2023, Mr. Rosenblum and the album were featured in a Downbeat Magazine article entitled “Worldly Jazz Adventuring.” He has been privileged to share the stage with many highly acclaimed jazz musicians, including extensive work with Curtis Lundy, Winard Harper, Deborah Davis & Chris Washburne, as well as appearances with Bobby Watson, Sean Jones, TS Monk, Warren Wolf, Eliot Zigmund, and many others. Rosenblum’s musical interests also extend beyond jazz to include work in numerous world music scenes, including musical styles from Brazil, Peru, Croatia, Bulgaria, India, Ireland, Jewish traditions and more.

I had the pleasure of catching up with Ben ahead of his July 14th show in Madison at The North Street Cabaret with Nebula Project. Ben was just about to head off to Europe to do another leg of a tour with the great Rickie Lee Jones. We spoke about what the people who head out on what I am sure will be a perfect evening in mid-July and get some Nebula Project in their world. We dove deep into the new record, ‘A Thousand Pebbles’ and got a peek behind the curtain a bit on how it went from those beGinning moments into a final product ready for ear consumption. We also spoke about his involvement in the Swiss vocalist, Gabriela Martina‘s striking new album ‘Homage to Grämlis and what was fresh and new for him with that work. And it wouldn’t be right if I let Ben go without trying to have him build a setlist. One thing I learned in my chat with him is that I think ‘d really like to spend a bunch of time listening to and talking about music with him. Maybe on the 14th?

Photo: Monica Witt